‘I know the feeling’ : About Lucas

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I don’t feel like a writer anymore and it breaks my heart

               You are a writer every time you feel you yearn to be

Writing is less about writing than it is a spiritual desire to explore emotion and humanity

You’d be the best writer in the world and never need to put down a single line

I worry I’ve lost it Lucas

Like every day

I think that’s the thing with every creative pursuit though, every time we make something we think it’s a fluke and that it will never happen again

But it’s the other way round, you don’t have a choice, you cant switch it off, you’ll always be that thing whether you like it or not

And I fully believe that anxiety/depression is a by-product of an abundance of creativity because our minds are on a 1000 all the time. And fuck me we know we can’t just switch that off

I think a bit of it is that I’ve actually had like real life shit go on that I haven’t been able to contemplate enough  or distance myself from enough to wrap into cute little word packages

So maybe one day I’ll write gut-wrenching poems about this but at the minute they only wrench my gut you know

100%

Yeah man some shit is too raw

It has to fade a little and then you can kind of -not romanticise it – but something like that

Is that what we do by making art out of sad things? Romanticise things? I guess so

Maybe not even romanticise, I think for the creator its more of an attempt to get something good out of it

Maybe creators are all closet optimists

Hmmmm I agree

It’s healing

I wonder if I’ve downplayed the level to which making music/writing has saved me from ACTUAL madness

I always think that about your work, maybe because of our conversations

Like its so beautiful and articulate and then there’s a line that’s like BRUTAL and I’m like ow I hope Lucas is okay

You’re so talented at being on that line between relatability and personalism

Hahaha I was thinking that myself the other there’s a song on the new EP that’s like SERIOUSLY me dealing with some shit but its wrapped in a bop

And I was like

Issssss this healthy?… let’s hope

That’s really kind of you to say and means a lot, thank you

Big mood

Feel that

In general it’s a strange thing. Like because you wrap it up in pretty paper, we’re happy to send our deeeep daaark personal emotions out into the world

It’s a magical thing though, that the world has birthed that

Even more magical to have friendships like this were we rarely actually talk about that stuff, but its enough that we share our work. It probably says it more honestly than if you were just like hi lucy this is going on and this is how I feel about it

Oh absolutely

Absofuckkkkkenlutely

I think that’s why we’ve been friends for like 4/5 years and only met once, because it’s way more genuine to be like here’s something I made that represents all the parts of who I am

Without having to navigate the social politeness to get to the deeper stuff

And our friendship was builttt on that, like day 1, deep dive

Hahaha ennit

I remember the night I first talked to Lucas Jones vividly. At around 2am, we both recommended each other the same song at the same time, and we’ve been connected since, two taureans, two writers, certainly soulmates somewhere along our timeline of lives.

Ours is a friendship rooted almost exclusively in our work. In the years we’ve known each other, we’ve met only once when I wandered half-cut into his gig, but we’ve shared maybe the most intimate moments of our lives with each other; laying our fears and pain at each other’s feet as poems and songs, rarely discussing the motivations. Rarely talking beyond ‘can I send you the new song?’, ‘could you read this for me?’, but we know each other, maybe closer than most others.

And though probably biased, Lucas is my favourite artist. He has a way of articulate his place in the world, tied between a purely ecstatic celebration of emotion, shouting out in praise of pain and love and anything given to us by living; and anger, questioning the state of things. He dives deep into everything, analysing every experience, cross-referencing it within the context of his life and further, and threading it together in a way only a prodigy could do. Writing it with a blessed pen, singing it out as another way to praise.

His new song Blush is no different which Lucas introduced to me as ‘essentially me having an existential crisis (WHAT A SHOCK)’. We’ve always been connected by our hearts, managing to stumble across someone with emotions are sharp and soft as our own, we’ve talked a lot about what it means. We’ve stayed up into the early morning hunched over phones and pulling apart our thoughts and feelings, begging each other for conclusions, do I love that boy? Do I feel this way because of A or B? Is this ever going to be a good thing or will it always hurt? Am I even a writer? That’s what I hear in Blush, Lucas trying to figure out what inside him is real and actualised, and what is just his emotions, stolen by his imagination. ‘I know the feeling’ becomes the conclusion, a cry that he doesn’t know what it means, whether it’s real, or where it comes from, but he knows it well, feeling it for certain. He spirals through the spectrum of emotion from screaming highs to weeping lows, and the conclusion is that. I don’t know why, but I know I feel it.

Knowing Lucas is a privilege. The world is lucky for getting a piece of his art, a gift that I don’t doubt will blossom and boom. But getting to know a piece of his soul, hear the thoughts, see the reasoning; is a blessing, and not just because I can brag about it when he’s famous. Each song I hear or poem I read, I feel I’m catching up with my friend, we’re working through the problems and feelings, combing through the mess, finding a path through. I never ask what or who they’re about, I only ask about the thought process behind it.

It’s a rare thing to have a friendship built like this. When we speak, we slip because to the 60s, to New York, to the Chelsea Hotel, to our own coterie, writing to each other in poems, hearing each other’s news in song. But it’s a beautiful thing we’ve built, and by ‘we’ I mean every creative, falling into and making their own little communities built in this way, in respect and admiration first. It’s a beautiful thing to see the merit in his work first, seeing the glorious crafting, then see him in it. In blush, I first see a perfectly done music video, complete with the complexity of real-world connections and the merging of lives in love. I then see Lucas, all the conversations we’ve had about the feeling, all the heartbreaks and the excitement of the newness of love. But first, always the poem, always the song. Work first, us later. The blessing of building from art; admiration into friendship.

‘Caffeine’ : The Rose Affair

Music

Today our favourite band, The Rose Affair, released their new single ‘Caffeine’. The lyrics are poetic and catching, the music video is beautiful and full of cryptic messages, the upbeat riffs mirror perfectly the message of addictive emotion. It signals the next stage of a band ever growing as lead singer, Lucas Jones, comes more and more into himself in both performance and lyrical poetry.

We approve.

I caught up with Lucas to talk about the song, it’s process and it’s inspiration.

Tell us a little bit about what the band has been up to since your last release, ‘II’. What’s been going on? How have things changed?

We’ve been gigging and writing as much as possible! The gigs have been noticeably different lately, audiences singing lyrics back has become thing. And we had an encore the other night, we were like ‘Fuck, what do we play?’ it was mental.

‘Caffeine’ is pretty different from a lot of your other stuff, more upbeat! Was that a conscious change or did it just happen?

It’s always super interesting when people say our new stuff sounds different because I’ve observed the track from birth to finality and so I never know at which point it became ‘different’. It’s like getting taller, you don’t really clock it until someone calls you out on it. It’s definitely more upbeat sonically than say ‘Taurus’, but lyrically it’s the same depressing kinda’ vibe. Going by lyrics alone we don’t actually have any upbeat songs, come to think of it; the upbeat guitar riffs are a bit of a trick.

Were there any particular musical or literary influences on the track?

Personally I’ve been listening to Radiohead quite a bit, but I’m pretty certain ‘Caffeine’ sounds precisely 0% Radiohead influenced. It’s quite ‘On The Road’ inspired, subconsciously; The ‘Hotel wedding sex’ kind of dirty, broken, Vegas stuff. Matt’s been playing Catfish and The Bottlemen a fair bit too, so I think there’s a drop of them in there.

Tell us about writing and recording caffeine! Did you straight away have the sound in mind, or did it take a while to find it?

Matt and I were sitting in the living room as per usual, and he played that riff, the intro, and I was like ‘Yooooo!!’. The first thing that came out of my mouth was the opening lyrics, which kind of set the tone for the whole song, then Jacob and Tom sprinkled their magic all over it. When it came to recording, we have a really solid idea of how our producer Jake can make bits come to life and so we wrote it very much with production in mind. ‘The sound’ is very much Jake’s work to be honest, you could mix Caffeine so many different ways.

You’re gigging more and more nowadays, but what’s number 1? Gigging or writing?

Eeeeek, hmmmm. Tough one. I guess gigging is the ultimate because what are songs without gigs? But then writing because what are gigs otherwise?! Chicken & egg scenario. Fuck it, gigs. People singing and moving and smiling to something that was born in our minds, nothing better in the world.

What are the band’s goals for the year? What’s next?

TO TAKE OVER EVERYTHING. Nah, to just keep on progressing. Kind of not joking about taking over everything I suppose but not in a dictatorship way, in an incredibly grateful and humble way within the time frame that is most conducive to our longevity. To sign with the label of my dreams would be gangbusters. (I learnt that expression today, it means great. It’s such a sick phrase, it’s so over the top).


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